Legislature(2005 - 2006)CAPITOL 106

03/02/2006 08:00 AM House STATE AFFAIRS


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+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 344 VEHICLE TRANSACTION AGENTS TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled But Not Heard
+ HJR 25 SUPPORTING VETERANS HOME OWNERSHIP ACT TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHJR 25(STA) Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
= HB 485 STATE PHARMACISTS/DOCTORS/AUDITOR EXEMPT
Moved Out of Committee
= HB 475 PUB EMPLOYEE & TEACHER RETIREMENT & SBS
Heard & Held
HJR 25-SUPPORTING VETERANS HOME OWNERSHIP ACT                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:07:17 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON announced that the last order of business was HOUSE                                                                
JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 25, Urging the United States Congress to                                                                   
enact the American Veterans Homeownership Act of 2005.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:08:12 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
HANNAH  McCARTY, Staff  to Representative  Beth Kerttula,  Alaska                                                               
State   Legislature,  on   behalf  of   Representative  Kerttula,                                                               
sponsor,   paraphrased  from   the   following  written   sponsor                                                               
statement:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska  is  one of  five  states  participating in  the                                                                    
     Veterans  Homeownership   Program,  which   makes  low-                                                                    
     interest home  loans available  to veterans  who served                                                                    
     before  1977  and  apply within  30  years  of  leaving                                                                    
     active military duty.  Unless  Congress takes action to                                                                    
     extend the  program, its effectiveness will  dwindle as                                                                    
     less and less veterans qualify.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     With about 70,500 veterans, Alaska  has the largest per                                                                    
     capita  population of  veterans in  the United  States.                                                                    
     Approximately  11,700 Alaskan  veterans have  benefited                                                                    
     from the  program since 1983.   During the  first three                                                                    
     years  of the  program,  over 1,000  veterans per  year                                                                    
     qualified for the  loan.  Last fiscal  year, the number                                                                    
     was down to 57.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     The American Veterans  Homeownership Act, repealing the                                                                    
     pre-1977  service requirement,  was  inserted into  the                                                                    
     Tax Reconciliation Bill last year.   The U.S.  House of                                                                    
     Representatives   approved  a   version   of  the   Tax                                                                    
     Reconciliation  Bill with  the language,  but the  U.S.                                                                    
     Senate's version doesn't have the language.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     HJR 25 urges Congress  to approve the American Veterans                                                                    
     Homeownership Act  language in  the U.S.  House version                                                                    
     of the Tax Reconciliation Bill.   This program is a way                                                                    
     for our  nation to express  its gratitude to  those who                                                                    
     have served in the armed  forces and should be extended                                                                    
     to benefit current and future veterans.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:09:50 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON directed  attention to the title of  the bill, which                                                               
read:                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Urging the  United States Congress to  adopt the United                                                                  
     States  House of  Representatives  version  of the  Tax                                                                  
     Relief Extension Reconciliation  Act of 2005, including                                                                  
     sec. 303.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON  said he  doesn't know enough  about the  U.S. House                                                               
version of the act to ask U.S.  Congress to accept it.  He asked,                                                               
"Is  the purpose  of  this to  really have  us  urge adoption  of                                                               
Section 303 ...?"                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.   MCCARTY  said   she  thinks   perhaps  the   title  doesn't                                                               
appropriately reflect the resolution language.   In response to a                                                               
question  from  Chair Seaton,  she  said  the sponsor  would  not                                                               
object  to  an amendment  to  change  the  title to  reflect  the                                                               
language in the body of the bill.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:11:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
BRYAN  BUTCHER,  Director,   Governmental  Relations  and  Public                                                               
Affairs,  Alaska  Housing  Finance  Corporation  (AHFC),  related                                                               
AHFC's support  of HJR  25.   He indicated  that the  five states                                                               
that  participate in  the Veterans  Home  Ownership Program  have                                                               
been working to get the  restriction removed that only allows the                                                               
program's  housing  loans to  those  veterans  who served  before                                                               
January 1,  1977.  He  likened the  effort to "banging  our heads                                                               
into the wall."  However, he said this year appears promising.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:12:59 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON inquired  as to how the program  works and requested                                                               
an explanation of the fiscal note.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUTCHER  said he does not  currently have a fiscal  note, but                                                               
offered his  understanding that  it is  a zero  fiscal note.   In                                                               
response to a follow-up question  from Chair Seaton, he explained                                                               
that there is  a list in the committee packet  showing the number                                                               
of loans that  AHFC has done.   He said, "So, there  is no actual                                                               
cost to  the corporation -  it's a  benefit to the  corporation -                                                               
because not only does it  benefit veterans who can take advantage                                                               
of  the  program,  but  it also  benefits  the  corporation  ...,                                                               
because   we  get   increasing  mortgage   loans."     The  chart                                                               
illustrates  the gradual  reduction  of loans  to veterans,  with                                                               
each passing  year since  the year that  veterans qualified.   He                                                               
said the point  has arrived where the program is  not much use at                                                               
all  to  Alaska,  Oregon,  and   Wisconsin;  however,  Texas  and                                                               
California still contain "a fair pool of veterans."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON asked  how the  program differs  from the  Veterans                                                               
Administration (VA) loan.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BUTCHER  said  the program  allows  the  five  participating                                                               
states  to  sell  tax-exempt  bonds   to  fund  mortgages,  which                                                               
translates into a  break on the regular mortgage rate.   He added                                                               
that it requires federal action to be allowed to do that.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:15:53 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BUTCHER,  in  response to  a  question  from  Representative                                                               
Gatto, explained that only five  states are eligible to sell tax-                                                               
exempt bonds to fund the Veterans Homeownership Program.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:16:23 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JOHN WILKINS, Director of Services,  Disabled American Veterans -                                                               
Alaska, explained  that his  job is to  ensure that  veterans get                                                               
what they  deserve.  He  stated that [the  Veterans Homeownership                                                               
Program is  a good  one.   He reported that  veterans in  his age                                                               
group have benefited from the program.   He said he purchased his                                                               
first home in  Alaska through the program, which  is cheaper than                                                               
the  VA loan.    He said  the  1986 federal  tax  code hurts  all                                                               
veterans  [who  served]  from  the  end of  the  Vietnam  War  to                                                               
present.  Since  1977, the U.S. has been involved  in a number of                                                               
conflicts  and  wars;  the  veterans  from  these  wars  are  not                                                               
included in  the program  and pay  higher rates  with a  VA loan.                                                               
Many  of today's  military  have families  to  support and  worry                                                               
about them when deployed.  He  asked the committee to support HJR
25.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:19:31 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON closed public testimony.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:19:46 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON moved that the  committee adopt Conceptual Amendment                                                               
1, as follows:                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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     Delete ", including sec. 303"                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
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     Between "adopt" and "the"                                                                                                  
     Insert "sec. 303 of"                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON asked  if  there was  any  objection to  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 1.  There being none, it was so ordered.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:20:46 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN  moved to report  CSHJR 25(MLV),  as amended,                                                               
out  of   committee  with  individual  recommendations   and  the                                                               
accompanying  fiscal  notes.   There  being  no objection,  CSHJR
25(STA)  was  reported  from the  House  State  Affairs  Standing                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      

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